Right before Donald Trump’s congressional speech on March 4, a lip reader claims that JD Vance uttered some chilling words in a conversation he believed to be private.
JD Vance’s political journey has been nothing short of a dramatic transformation. Back in 2016 – the same year his book “Hillbilly Elegy” was released – Vance openly expressed his disdain for Donald Trump, calling him an “idiot,” likening him to Nixon and, at worst, “America’s Hitler.”
“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a**hole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler,” Reuters reports of a private message Vance sent on Facebook to an associate in 2016.
When his Hitler comment went public in 2022, a spokesperson “did not dispute it, but said it no longer represented Vance’s views.”
In a striking reversal, he has since become one of Trump’s most loyal soldiers, rising through the ranks to secure a spot as vice president.
Congressional speech
On March 4, House Speaker Mike Johnson presided over the House floor, preparing for the president’s bold and fiery congressional address.But right before Trump promised that his disruptive approach to politics was “just getting started,” Vice President JVance was chatting with Johnson, right in front of a live microphone.
JD Vance. Credit / Getty Images
JD Vance. Credit / Getty Images
Right before Donald Trump’s congressional speech on March 4, a lip reader claims that JD Vance uttered some chilling words in a conversation he believed to be private.
JD Vance’s political journey has been nothing short of a dramatic transformation. Back in 2016 – the same year his book “Hillbilly Elegy” was released – Vance openly expressed his disdain for Donald Trump, calling him an “idiot,” likening him to Nixon and, at worst, “America’s Hitler.”
“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a**hole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler,” Reuters reports of a private message Vance sent on Facebook to an associate in 2016.
When his Hitler comment went public in 2022, a spokesperson “did not dispute it, but said it no longer represented Vance’s views.”
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In a striking reversal, he has since become one of Trump’s most loyal soldiers, rising through the ranks to secure a spot as vice president.
Congressional speech
On March 4, House Speaker Mike Johnson presided over the House floor, preparing for the president’s bold and fiery congressional address.
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But right before Trump promised that his disruptive approach to politics was “just getting started,” Vice President JVance was chatting with Johnson, right in front of a live microphone.
But what was he saying?
‘Full reckoning’
Speaking with the Mirror, lip reading specialist Jeremy Freeman claims that Vance privately stated, “Yes it is, a full reckoning, and long overdue”.
He was also reportedly overheard telling Johnson, “By the way, I think the speech is going to be great. But I don’t know how you do this for 90 minutes.”
Johnson’s response to the VP was picked up by a nearby hot mic, where he’s heard saying: “The hardest thing was doing it during Biden, when his speech was a stupid campaign speech.”
This wasn’t a throwaway comment – it was serious enough for Johnson to react by discreetly lowering his microphone, as if ensuring their conversation remained private.
JD Vance's three-word threat moments before Trump's address caught by lip reader https://t.co/Ni5cHkUQpr @JDVance @SpeakerJohnson
What's the reckoning JD? What are you vultures planning? You've hijacked our country & it's money
what are you going to do now? send us to camps?— WWII / KOREA US MARINE'S PISSED OFF DAUGHTER!!!! (@MareeOSullivan2) March 5, 2025
But what exactly was Vance referring to? And how does it fit into the broader political landscape as Trump and his allies gear up for another contentious political battle?
‘Vance is the threat’
Vance’s words come at a time when he has been making headlines for his fiery rhetoric and policy stances. Just days before his cryptic remark, he had a heated exchange with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office and has been publicly dismissive toward Britain.
While his comment about a “full reckoning” is not confirmed or understood, the remark sparked online speculation with fans offering their opinions on the VP who some are calling a “punk.”
“What’s the reckoning JD? What are you vultures planning? You’ve hijacked our country & it’s money what are you going to do now? send us to camps?” tweets one netizen.“I’ve seen Vance’s type before. The weedy kid who hangs around the bully, but soils himself when the bully isn’t around and is confronted alone. Runs his mouth, but backpedals when he realizes he’s about to get a punch in the face. I detest bullies, and those who enable them,” shares a second.
Another adds, “Trump is a dupe – Vance is the threat.”
Given this transformation, his “full reckoning” comment is especially intriguing. Is he signaling a purge of anti-Trump elements within the party? A warning to political adversaries? Or is it a broader call for a shift in government priorities under the new administration?
Regardless, one thing is certain: Vance is no longer just a politician in Trump’s orbit. He’s a key player in an administration that appears poised for sweeping political and institutional changes. And if his words are any indication, the reckoning – whatever it may be – has only just begun.
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